Me vs my OTHER stalker, and the people who fought for me…

29 Dec

This little rambling is actually NOT about a stalker of mine, but about the amazing people who circled their wagons around me when this stalker decided to bare her teeth and try to publicly attack.  But to know the situation, ya gotta know the stalker, you’re gonna need a little background- so let me tell you a story….

When I was 19, I was friends with a young lady (and for the sake of privacy, I’ll call her “L”).  She was… how do I state it without offending …. “overly emotional”- but when you’re 19, that comes with the territory.  Most of my friends when I was 19 were like that (and drunk and stupid and everything a 19 year old is supposed to be… myself included).  Fast forward a couple years, and I’m a little older, and “overly emotional” is starting to get old and tiring.  At 21 I find myself pregnant, and realize I want nothing to do with that because having a baby is enough drama in itself, I don’t need dramatic adults in my life.  So slowly I begin pushing all drama away, and finding people in my life who are funny, amazing, creative and adventurous- WITHOUT THE DRAMA.  “L” was one of these people who had to go.  She couldn’t help who she was, but who she was just wasn’t what I could handle anymore.  This didn’t go over well, and viciousness from her rained down.  Eventually it ended, and I walked away safe and sound.

Fast forward 10 years.  “L” gets a hold of my email address and contacts me. I think, “she’s older, married with kids- she must have settled down… but don’t get too close”.  We stayed online acquaintances from that point on, emailing randomly through whatever social networking crap we were on… but that was it.  Don’t get too close, remember?  Drama isn’t fun unless your 19, remember?

Fast forward to present day (I apologize if this is getting long winded- but I want nothing to be left to question since I’ll never revisit this situation).  On xmas, I made a silly and harmless comment about how my family celebrates xmas- & “L” took it as a personal attack.  After what turned into a ridiculous difference of opinion that turned into her attacking me, I cut her off and stopped responding to her.  She got mad.

She sent me email after email after email on facebook until I blocked her… all filled with insults, degrading remarks, and bitter venom.  She covered her facebook page with photos and links about me, lashing out, calling me out by name and begging for people to hate me.  She tried over and over again to post horrifying comments all over my blog (but wordpress has the most amazing blocking capabilities, so I slapped her down at every turn).  She contacted mutual friends of ours, trying to get them to turn on me.  She rallied against me on large public political blogs and websites, again naming me by name and posting links to me- calling me an advocate to oppression and hate towards Christians.  Through all of this I said  nothing.  I didn’t respond.  I didn’t fight back.  I just blocked and dodged bullets because I knew just how insane she was and I didn’t want to fuel the fire.  Her final attempted comment on my blog warned me that she was going to write a blog about me exposing me for the hate-filled religious oppressor that I really am, and that when anyone googled my name, they’d find her blog and see just how pathetic I really am.  All because my atheist family wanted a non-xmas xmas.

“L’s” final message was a threat.  A threat to “expose my dark secrets”.  It was an intimidation tactic to “put me in my place”.  Since I am an open book and have never had anything to hide, I welcomed it.

Click here if you’d like to see the blog she dedicated to me.

(I have disabled the link to her blog after closing the ability for anyone to comment further on this post for the protection of her privacy.)

For the first time since the madness began, I responded by posting an open invitation on my facebook profile for anyone who would like to talk about how much they hate me, and giving them the link to find her blog.  And I’d like to note for the record, this is the first time I’ve linked anything to her, and I will still not divulge her name out of respect for her and her family’s privacy.  But one thing I’d like to make very very clear- THIS WAS ALL OVER NOTHING, and I’m sincerely disturbed and creeped out by this whole situation, and all the hate.  I ran from her the first time to escape the drama, and this is why I’m running screaming again.  It’s too ridiculous, and I’m glad to be rid of it- again.

HERE is where the point of my blog begins (sorry it took so long to get here)… and I’m choked up while I’m writing this.  I thought that maybe a couple buddies would comment on my FB page about how it was funny or whatever.  What I did not expect is that in less than 24 hours there were over 100 comments on my FB page and her blog coming to my defense.  Last night, about an hour after I posted the link, Brad came home to me almost in tears because of the touching and beautiful things people had posted.  We both sat in awe as the comments kept coming and coming- calling her out on her unjustified and unprovoked hate tactics, slander, personal attacks and cruelty towards me.  These defenders were people who I’ve corresponded with on blogs, who’ve found me on FB and myspace, and some people I’ve never had any contact with- but the majority of them I have never sat in the same room with.  And even though I don’t “know” these people in a face-to-face or conventional setting, we have connected on some level, and they came to bat for me.  And as Brad and I were watching the computer, and feeling the love come pouring from my computer screen, my heart grew 10x’s it’s size that night (I think a grinch metaphor is suitable right about now).  I believe Brad’s exact quote while we were watching the comments pile up, our jaws dropped, was “You’ve got a solid crew of rad people covering your back”…. and I sincerely and truly do.

One of my tried-and-true friends, Melissa, made a comment about how it made her sad that I don’t have faith in much of anything.  And it’s true… I don’t.  Until last night, I had little faith in people’s respect for one another, for their commitment to other humans in their lives, and I fully believed that decency and loyalty were a thing of the past that we could tell our grandkids about while the world is burning down around us.  Jaded- I know…. but it’s where my heart feels safest.  “Expect pain and suffering from people, and you don’t get disappointed” is a pretty accurate life motto of mine- though it’s one that I’ve been trying to change.  What’s amazing is that in 24 hours, the baby-steps towards changing that hard-hearted life motto has just taken a pole-vaulting leap in the right direction.  In the happy and love filled direction.  It blows my mind that a simple post from a stupid site like facebook could make my outlook on people change so much- but those of you who defended me with such touching and eloquent words, and endured “L’s” hate vomitted at you in her responses made more of a difference to me than you’ll ever know.   You saw me under attack, and you protected me- and even though her words have yet to hurt me (nor will they ever, no matter what she says about me) because I’m ok with being hated.  One of the things that makes me ok with being hated is that I know other people’s emotions are nothing I can control.  But the other thing, the more important reason, is that I know that there are people who accept and care.  And I have felt more love, acceptance, and unity these past 24 hours than I’ve felt in a really long time… and to those of you who came to my defense and showed me your big beautiful hearts- I thank you from the bottom of mine.  I want to bury my face in your hair and give you all hugs and tickles.  I don’t have words (nor do I think they even exist) to explain just how much you all mean to me, and how much your protection of my views, honor, and self truly made a difference with me.

I’d like to put “L’s” mania behind me… but if she needs to continue with her Anti-Kristen Crusade, I’m not going to do anything to stop her.  If she needs to behave like this in order to look at herself in the mirror every morning, then I’m not going to take that away from her.  But I’m done.  “L”- I’m unblocking your ability to comment on here if you still feel the need to keep this going.  I didn’t block you to “oppress” you, but to run from a pointless religious battle that I had no interest in debating or dragging out.  I’m too old for that shit, and my “aging tattooed body” as (she so lovingly put it) just doesn’t have the stamina for all that hate.

To all my guardians- I adore you.  Truly, sincerely, and from the bottom of my heart.  Thank you for being so overwhelmingly amazing.

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92 Responses to “Me vs my OTHER stalker, and the people who fought for me…”

  1. Jeanne December 29, 2009 at 11:27 pm #

    We love you, lady!

    • Kristen Ferrell December 29, 2009 at 11:32 pm #

      Jeanne- you’re a fucking superhero!! Will you move to California and randomly stop into my work and hang out ala-Lawrence style? Please? I need more daily-doses of you.
      xoxoxoxoxo

  2. hayley December 30, 2009 at 12:01 am #

    I had fun reading L’s rants. Since I don’t see you as the type to internet bash another, I thought I’d show you what I posted in your honor.

    “Well you are one big hypocrite. Whining about Kristen attacking the religious beliefs of others, then you go ahead and insult her on not only her beliefs, but her education, looks, way of life, etc. Also, when writing about you, she at least had respect enough to protect her identity. You however, had no problem with exposing her name, pictures, links, and what not.

    If you had actually READ her blog, you would have seen that yes, she is an atheist, but realizes that not all christians are nut-jobs. She thinks for herself, and exposes her son to all religions without prejudice or hatred for the ones she may not agree with. But I guess it’s too hard to admit you might be wrong.

    In conclusion, you are one of those religious hypocrites that causes her to right such anger-evoking but amusing blogs. I mean really, you whine that she is “anti christian” and then go and bash her because SHE chooses not to follow a certain religion. And really, you DID start all of this, contacting her, not liking what you see, and whining about her to your loyal followers. If you don’t agree with anything I said, at least acknowledge that all of this was caused because of YOUR intolerance.”

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 3:36 pm #

      awwww, Hayley- you’re such a doll! Thank you!! She’s just confused and jaded and lonely… so her words just rolled off my back and out the door.
      XOXOXOXOXO

  3. kat December 30, 2009 at 2:05 am #

    If they made peanut butter as nutty as that lady acted, they wouldn’t be able to keep it on the shelves! Kristen, I knew you had “cool” friends. But my God, woman, these people are the bomb! I’m glad you know how lucky you are, but at the same time, I wish you didn’t have to find out because of a venomous, spiteful Ghost of Midwest Past. Someday, when I’m a big kid and can play with the other big kids, I totally want to have with Brad and Jeanne. I LOVE how they defended you. Lady J was like a bulldog with a postman, and Brad was a perfect gentleman. Man, oh, man… it was a thing of beauty.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 3:52 pm #

      I am very very lucky to have such warm, intelligent and amazing people in my life. And they are the true definition of friends, because even though many of them disagree with my religious views they STILL fought against someone ATTEMPTING to publicly degrade me. You, lady, are so appreciated, and thank you so much for all your wonderful words!!
      We should all get together! Except you and Jeanne are going to have to come to me. It’s too cold where you and Jeanne live, and California has turned me into a total pussy when it comes to the weather.
      🙂

      • Jeanne December 30, 2009 at 8:15 pm #

        Hey, now… I live in Oregon. When compared to the snow-covered shithole that Lawrence is right now, it seems much less cold and far more attractive. I’m visiting in Lawrence right now and I’m very put out that they decided to have a blizzard while I’m here. Fuckers.

  4. Sunny December 30, 2009 at 7:38 am #

    I managed to miss the Xmas day fun, and all the other stuff til now, and since it seems like everything’s alredy been said, I’d just like to add a co-sign to all the comments made in support of you.
    I’d also like to say that Christians who whine about being persecuted get even LESS sympathy from me than white dudes who whine about affirmatie action.
    Christians deserve consideration, they are not owed deference.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 3:56 pm #

      Amen.
      When you dominate a culture, you don’t get to be upset when others want something different. No matter what any religious minority does, “In God We Trust” is still going to refer to a Christian god, and we’re still going to be governed by Christian laws.
      It’s like if the schoolyard bully goes crying to the teacher because the geeks wouldn’t hand over their lunch money on demand.

      Big hugs to you for your support!!!!!!

  5. Jeanne December 30, 2009 at 8:14 am #

    Grrrr!!! Woof woof! Bark!

    I’m almost done with these people, but not quite yet. I’m still enjoying beating my head against this particular wall.

    Kristen, I would love to come hang out with you, at work or otherwise! You’d be the best excuse for making my way to socal for the first time… I’ve been avoiding it for years now.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 3:58 pm #

      You had better!!! We’re 2 blocks from the beach, and I’ll take you to the tide pools where you can watch the sea lions yell at each other and watch sand crab wars. We have a guest room with your name all over it.

      • Jeanne December 30, 2009 at 8:11 pm #

        Ooooooo… sea lions and sand crab wars!? You totally have my number. Not to mention that I would really love to come poke your cats.

        • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 12:00 am #

          My cats would love for you to poke them. Except Daisy Ding Dong Stupid Face. She pokes back. With her claws. In people’s eyes. A LOT!!!

          • Jeanne December 31, 2009 at 1:49 pm #

            Ha! I’m not scared of anyone with the words “Ding Dong” in their name.

            • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 1:55 pm #

              She’s desperately trying to live down that name. It’s kindof a “Boy Named Sue” situation.

  6. Kasia December 30, 2009 at 8:35 am #

    I don’t know if you remember me, but I wrote you an email over myspace (screen name matorias) a few years ago thanking you for being who you are. I told you that I wished I had the courage that you had and that you were a constant inspiration for me. As for today, I’m well on my path to being exactly who I want to be and your endless honesty has been refreshing and (again) inspiring. I don’t always agree with everything you say, but I have an unsurpassed amount of respect for you. There are SO few truly honest people in the world.

    So when I saw this woman attack, there was no question in my mind what needed to be done (even though my general attitude about arguing on the internet can be compared to the special olympics-even if you win, you’re still retarded).

    Much love to you in the new year. I know its hard to realize it when regular life gets you down, but you touch many, many people with what you do and we are very thankful for it.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:04 pm #

      hahaha… You’re so very right! I’ve never really gotten into “online debating” myself… and maybe that’s why this lady got so mad at me. It’s very likely that I didn’t play by the “internet debate rules”, and that offended her. But I don’t exist through the internet as she does… I just have a silly blog where I vent and talk about my cats, and people happen to respond. I’m not out to change the world or other people’s minds. My life and views work for me, and I hope other people’s lives and views work for them.

      And I do remember talking to you via myspace, and you warmed my heart like crazy. And I’m so thankful for open and fantastic people like yourself! Much love to you too in the new year!!

  7. hayleyg8 December 30, 2009 at 9:27 am #

    wow, just WOW. that woman is in-friggin-sane!

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:10 pm #

      My beautiful friend Sarah said it best when referring to her as a “batch of frownies”.
      I think that needs to be the official phrase of the week.
      xoxoxoxo

  8. Alice December 30, 2009 at 1:02 pm #

    Congratulations, Kristen, on being so diplomatic with this woman. She has certainly not shown you the same courtesy. If she were truly happy and at peace with her beliefs, she would not feel driven to pick on others, using bigotry as her excuse. It’s always interesting when an individual is motivated to take up a cause in which they accidentally reveal themselves as being motivated by feelings of low self-worth, guilt, and just plain ordinary meanness.

    Now, when are you coming to Chicago? I suggest May, when everything is in bloom and the weather is actually nice for a change.

    I promise I will come to L.A. before my hair turns grey!

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:20 pm #

      I can be diplomatic because this doesn’t emotionally effect me. And no, she didn’t show me the same courtesy- but I expect very little from people who don’t know me well, so a big shrug and a very apathetic “oh well” goes to her. Maybe she felt we were friends and not just casual acquaintances which is why she took it so personally… and if that’s the case, it’s very sad. But it’s also not my responsibility. Alice, my darling, you of all people know her story all too well- so there’s no need to explain further.
      In the prophetic words of a gentleman called 2Pac:
      “Scream 1,2,3.
      Peace to the real G’s.
      Still mean ’till these mothafuckas kill me…
      Bitches, let em point the finger.”

      I’m not stepping foot in Chicago until it warms up there. I don’t know how you deal with that winter arctic iceland, and I’ve grown too fond of my 70 degree Decembers. Spring sounds like a good time, though.
      But if I remember correctly, I’ve already braved Chicago (remember the hilarity of me trying to parallel park that Hummer and hitting parked cars left and right?!)… so I think it’s your turn. 😉
      I adore you.

  9. Jeanne December 30, 2009 at 1:10 pm #

    Damn, my last comment to her post got lost. Must be the universe’s way of saying to give it up. Oh well, this has been a blast! Thanks again, Kristen.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:21 pm #

      I can sincerely say that I think it’s been hilarious fun for all!! Thanks for playing!
      😀
      xoxoxoxo

  10. Tawni December 30, 2009 at 1:29 pm #

    Awwww. This sweet blog made my eyes water. We love you, coolest lady. And no hypocritical, preaching-tolerance-while-spewing-hate, stinky-pants internet-chickenshit will ever change that. Keep being AWESOME. Mwah! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:23 pm #

      I’m sending you so many care-bear-stares right now I’m starting to get dizzy… are you getting them? Can you feel the love? Wait for it… it might take a minute (you are quite a distance from me, and they can only travel so fast).
      OH!! Be expecting something from me in the mail. It will make you giggle.
      Double Mwah and an ass-slap to you!!!
      xoxoxooxxoxo

  11. christine December 30, 2009 at 2:10 pm #

    <33333333333333333

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:27 pm #

      <33333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 times infinity.
      so there.

  12. Angela Easton December 30, 2009 at 2:34 pm #

    I’d just have to say that she is crazy. She’s one of those type of people who just cannot admit when they are wrong. You know the types….the ones who have about a million problems with their argument that even an unbiased, uncaring person could point at, but they refuse to admit that they are less than perfect. They refuse to admit they could be wrong or that maybe they took something far too personally. The fact that she sunk so low as to try to humiliate and degrade you with this blog makes her whole argument something you could toss in the trash. If I wanted to actually debate something w/ someone, the last thing I would do is want to insult them. Duh. No wonder you blocked her. These type of Christians who are truly “holier than thou” really give religion a bad name. First of all, when she brings up the Muslim argument….the last time I checked it’s not those who don’t believe in God that have such a hate for Muslims and Christians. More bloodshed and hate has been caused because of people thinking their belief is the only truth. The intolerance is from people like this chick claiming to fight it. My own opinion anyway…

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:34 pm #

      I’ll just let her spin. If she needs this to feel right and valid then she can have it. The nice thing about blocking someone is that you don’t have to ever ever deal with them ever again… ever! I wish there was a ‘block’ button for real-life.

      But thank you, wonderful lady! I think you logic fell on deaf ears on the hate blog… but I hear you loud and clear, and agree 100%. You’re fantastic!!!
      xoxoxo

  13. bob December 30, 2009 at 4:18 pm #

    hey! just a thought, it’s awesome how lots of peeps are coming to have your back on that blog, i even left a comment and i dont personally know you, but that got me thinking how much extra traffic that bitch is getting on her blog…she doesnt deserve it!!

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 4:36 pm #

      My husband pointed out to me that this is actually really great press! Let her rant! And after this is done, her blog will go back to being a monologue to an empty theater. It’s all good, my friend!
      Thank you for your comment! Big love to you!!
      xoxoxoxo

  14. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth December 30, 2009 at 6:37 pm #

    Yeah Bob, this bitch is getting a %age of every click.

    Angela, wrong, wrong and wrong again. Have you even seen the hideousness I usually report on? Here, here’s some Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/
    Her pal, Robert Spencer?: http://www.jihadwatch.org/

    Just Google Debbie Schlussel, NRO (National Review Online) and “The
    Center of Vigilant Freedoms” as well as “Gates of Vienna”. These are the real hate sites, and ones which have driven people to violent crime. Look at the recent sandstorm of a mess the Dutch parliament is in (and has been in since 2001).

    Now, bowing fully, it’s back to music practice which is very much part of my life, despite the general opinion that I have nothing better to do with my life.

    Kristen–just for fun, ‘Alexa ratings–you’ll have to Google this, but it’s fun and useful in blogging, as is Site Meter– I suggested it when you set this blog up but didn’t see anywhere up there. SM is more statistical, Alexa more of a pattern follower and % of where your blog fits into the scheme of web visits.

    I don’t hate you, any of you. Had I not enjoyed so many of Kristen’s blog posts on MySpace I simply wouldn’t have read them. On a few occasions I did just that, knowing that it would just be petty to read something written by someone I liked knowing it would get me angry and that the commentariat would become defensive and just end up as an angry comment shitstorm.

    Christmas morning, I don’t even remember what I had said! I was startled by a ‘status’ and comments by Kristen, decided to throw in my dissenting opinion and ended up getting messaged to death by Kristen. I don’t care if people are athiests, agnostics, devotees of Cthulthu, I don’t care, and as long as I can share a dissenting view, then I’m OK with it all.

    But not being able to see that these biases against and slanders against Christianity in the U.S. and Europe are seen by people claiming to be observant and changes the poll-resulting-demographic. While the result remains skewed (by those non-observant/religious) in favor of people just filling the blank on that form as “Christian” and reading your average Bruce Bawer book leaves people unengaged with their spititual or religious sensibilities…

    …..ah well ,stick your neck back into the sand if you please. I’m far too interested (as usual) with the debates built on these solid structural bounds than with catch phrases. The problem I see at present is that I’m extremely sleepy and cannot debate at present.

    So go ahead, by all means keep calling me a “bitch”, claim that “all filled with insults, degrading remarks, and bitter venom. She covered her facebook page with photos and links about me” and help her through this difficult time for Kristen’s beliefs; take comments such as this from Kristen….no scratch that, read the vitriol and the attempts constantly to play victim up there in the post.

    My contact info is up. Please use it if you so see fit or leave more comments. Here or elsewhere. Seriously, I mind not a bit;)

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 7:23 pm #

      *shudder*
      We get it. Really… we do.
      Are you done now? Is it all out of your system? Find your ‘peaceful place’ and breathe in through your nose… breathe out through your nose… deep cleansing happy breaths. Do you feel better?

      I’m not going to debate you because I don’t care. I don’t care about your views, or your causes, or your feelings at this point… really anything about you. You should be totally ok that I don’t care. Lordy, I would LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE it if you didn’t care about me. Can you do that for me? Can you please not care? Can you take the effort and embrace a little apathy and walk away? I don’t need you to sit and stew for years (like you did with Alice, which was made obvious by your name calling the moment her presence appeared on your blog).
      Just repeat over and over to yourself in your head “Kristen is not important. Kristen is not important. Kristen is not important.” Because I’m not. At all. Let this be your new mantra when you take those suggested big deep cleansing breaths (that you really should be taking… often).

      But I do want you to leave this overblown and ridiculous situation with a little something for you to think about:
      Love attracts love, and hate attracts hate. Your blog was dedicated to hate, which is why it was met with hate (and not hate from me- but from 90% of the people who posted on it). But take a good look at the comments on my FB page, on your blog, and on here- and lady, it’s all about love. I don’t have “sheep-like followers”. I have people who want to interact with me (and who I adore interacting with) because I’m 100% into wanting people to feel good, empowered, safe, and appreciated… and so are they. It’s why I try to make the things that upset me funny (like when I talk about my experiences with religion)- because I want to feel some good to balance out the pain. And if people are drawn to interact with me at all, it might be because of that. We all need some good to balance out the pain.
      It was your aggression that started all of this. At the birth of this situation, I asked for a little less of it because aggression wears me (and most people) out… and we all have too much to do to be worn out by needless aggression. And it was your continued aggression that got you shut out of my world for good. You should try a little bit of love. It helps. Really… it does. It would be great if you could open your eyes to that… but if not, that’s ok. Like I said before, I just don’t care.

      Now… back to the “Kristen Ferrell Loves Her Friends” party. I think it’s a pretty awesome way to end 2009.

      (and thanks for your advice about the blog stats pages… but I don’t care how many people come to my blog or about positive or negative attention, and blog hits don’t equal validation. I’m just going to keep going on about my life, doing the things that make me happy, and not giving a flying fuck about what people think about it… like I always have. I live my life for me… not anyone else. So the “stats” don’t mean shit)

  15. AnniePants December 30, 2009 at 7:19 pm #

    Well done on taking the non-rediculous road (as we all know you would). It’s unfortunate that so many people forget that different doesn’t mean wrong. I personally find you to be fantastic and highly entertaining. So now we can all sit back and watch this woman throw a virtual temper tantrum…like a kid in a store…and then throw squeaky toys at her…or something.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 7:24 pm #

      hahahahahaha!!! Oh Annie… that mental picture you just painted was sincerely beautiful! Thank you, glorious girl!!!
      xoxoxoxoxo

  16. Erica December 30, 2009 at 7:40 pm #

    I think it’s hilarious what this has all stemmed into. Not hilarious because Kristen is being publicly attacked of course, but hilarious because “L” thinks that their opinion would mean anything to all of Kristen’s devoted friends family and fans. As if they would read the blog and say “Kristen is a bigot for expressing her beliefs on her personal page, how dare she!” This is round about high school drama and I’m glad Kristen is showing that her mentality is above a prepubescent hormone driving girl. When I read the blog I felt no other words than “they need a life” was necessary one, because it is true “L”, really needs to focus on more important issues, say anything that is meaningful in their life besides attacking people who have done absolutely nothing to them. Two, because I have always been a firm believer that if someone is trying to shame or degrade you they are looking for a reaction and the best way to deal with it is not to give them one. Kristen, I have never met you personally but I feel as though I know you, through your art and your words you have become a dear friend to me. Thank you for making such an impact on people, such as me, and please continue to express your self freely, we are listening, we do care, and we wont stop.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 7:50 pm #

      God, Erica… this is exactly what I’m talking about. You just made my heart swell and I’ve got a perma-smile on my face. Thank you so much for making me feel cared for and appreciated- and you are so wonderfully appreciated and cared for too! Connections, understanding and human commitment are more likely made through positive bonding instead of hate-fests. To bond through hate and aggression keeps your relationship at that hateful level- and I’ve grown out of that. Sure, I love to bitch and moan about the things that make me angry… but I really try to do it with laughter because I just don’t want to be in that teen-angst mental place at age 33. It’s pathetic. I don’t believe that I have to defend myself against everyone who lives differently than me, and I certainly don’t see their views as a threat (even if they offend me). But it does take alot to offend me- so I think that’s where “L” and I differ.
      And it’s why I believe I’m in a much happier and emotionally safe place.
      Thank you, Erica, for your kind and open heart.
      xoxooxoxxo

  17. J December 30, 2009 at 8:39 pm #

    good luck Kristen!! i really hope she will stop bothering you. I haven’t met you in person but I know that you’re a very kind, open and sincere person.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 8:50 pm #

      Thank you!!! You’re a sweetheart!! 🙂
      She can try and try to bother me, but she has no power… so any other attempts will be futile. She can talk shit and send people to my sites/blogs to talk shit or post more rage on a million websites- but it’s only words… and empty ones at that. So it’s all TOTALLY ok. We can do nothing about other people’s actions- we only have control over our reactions to them. And my reaction is to walk away from her smiling into the arms of true friends. And that makes everything awesome.

  18. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth December 30, 2009 at 8:47 pm #

    Wow…one little comment at FB and I’m jumped all over and insulted (along with MY HUSBAND!), all because Itty Bitty Kwisten was forced to take part in Lake of the Ozarks Group Homes (which I do admit, what they did to you was total shit in your teens). I have NEVER online (and boy have I run the gauntlet here), never, ever see the amount of hatred and venom of attacks I have seen here since even my earliest days having dial-up and pay-by-the-hour AOL service.

    Very sad showing, fans of Kristen Ferrell art and magic. I’m happy that you are happy about your posts, even to the point of giving advice on the early how-tos of blogging. Even tonight, and thanks for the acknowledgement of that above. I thought it was silly too until I realized that you can track a person’s IP Address, even see their processor speed and how many pixels their computer monitors. Personally, I find that cheesy, creepy and weird, but for seeing what links led people to your site and where people are logging from with a world map. Hey, it;s a great thing to wake up finding someone in Bangladesh reading your blog while you take your morning coffee. Cool bonus, and it’s free!

    I’ve not been obsessing with you and certainly didn’t force me back to KC to hunt you down, though now that you are back in CA, we are centering on an onslaught of resumes to the SoCal area just to stalk you better.

    I’ll talk to you tomorrow, or perhaps many years from now. Sorry if I denigrated your work. The best work seems to be the one person I’ve not met since his getting so, well, so another reconnect I love that painting a whole. That, and my angst-ridden NINE-yyear-old has taken a liking to Nirvana.

    Sorry, yet again, to make a sincere General and his armies just laid ( and NO!! Not Jesus this time!). Sorry I delved into a past we decided long ago was totaled and FUBAR.

    Adios.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 8:57 pm #

      Woooooahhhhhh… That was 100% full of creepy-crawly-crazy.

      Ok folks- I think it’s over (cuz ya just can’t top that if ya tried).
      We can all come out from under our desks.
      *phew*

  19. daMamma December 30, 2009 at 9:11 pm #

    Well. That was interesting. (her not you Ms.K)

    Yes, I saw that rant of, I’m not sure what the proper word I want here, the other day. To be honest it startled me. It was not about the Kristen I have come to know through her writing, her art and her friends on this blog.

    I decided not to respond, but let it go. Couple of reasons. First being the rant sounded like a person who would only escalate if engaged. Second, I’m thinking Kristen is a big girl and she’s got herself some pretty big brass balls. She can handle it with more grace than I can.

    Since you took the high road, I was pleased to just continue to let it be.

    Not doing the whole face book thing myself, never occurred to me that you might, otherwise I would have left something positive there. Still I don’t think I will venture to her site. I’ve enough ugly and hate from watching the evening news without having to fill up on someone else’s personal angst and vitriol against another person for unknowable reasons.

    I read few blogs, fewer still on a regular basis. This one is high on my regular list. I like your forthright attitude. You call it like you see it and pull no punches. You show class and heart, intelligence and a gifted imagination.

    Your art is what first drew me to this site, your humor keeps me coming back. This is a delightful haven you’ve created.

    Thank you.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 10:13 pm #

      Oh daMamma!!!
      I love that you found me, and that you share your wonderful insight and humor with me!! You are a treasured participant, and I always adore what you have to say!! And you’re so very very right- there is enough ugly and hate in the world that I just don’t see the point in adding to it. Discussing the ugliness and hate and trying to find ways to cope is productive- but there was no productivity in creating more. And her blog tried to create a whole hot mess of it. 2 thumbs-down with a twist to that. We don’t need it. And we’re all too good for it.
      You are a wonderful lady, and I’m SO happy you’re here.
      xoxooxoxoxoxox

  20. Sunny December 30, 2009 at 9:15 pm #

    Wait, did that make sense? In English, I mean? I’m reading on a cell phone so I could be confused, but… um, yeah.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 10:04 pm #

      No Sunny… you’re totally right. It was all over the place and manic with babble. I’m just hoping she’s found some closure now.
      xooxoxxoxooxxo

  21. Lemissa December 30, 2009 at 9:18 pm #

    Kristen, I have adored you from the day I met you and nothing makes me happier than to hear that this lady’s crazy has brought you the pole vault to love love love!!! You inspire me with your resilience, you amaze me with your talent and your gratitude brings me joy. We do love you and with very good reason 🙂

    Blessed Be and Namaste,
    Melissa

    p.s. it may be 70 all year in SoCal and only 10 minutes from the beach, but I have Sweet Life here…come see me 😉

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 10:28 pm #

      Melissa- your unflinchingly open heart has always left me in awe. I’ve always been amazed at how you have this bottomless well of love in you, and I’ve always watched and tried to figure out how you do it… and I’ve learned so so much from you because of it. When I would sink into my grump-fests and kick at the world saying “fuck you, stupid life”, you would always give me one of your legendary hugs and remind me that I’m loved- and that’s really all that matters. I still have a really long way to go until I’m where I want to be with how open I am to people and the world- but at least I know that I have a ‘journey’ to make and need the improvements. When people don’t see the need for self improvement, and dig their heels in screaming “I’M RIGHT SO FUCK YOU!!!”- that’s when they go nuts. And it’s a sad place to be in. And I want nothing to do with that world.
      Thank you, lady, for being such an amazing friend and for being such a profound “teacher-by-example”. You make a huge difference to everyone that is around you.
      XOXOXOXOXOOXOXOXOOXX

      ps- what’s ‘sweet life’? Is it candy? You KNOW I’ll travel millions of miles for candy. And to see you. 😀

      • Jeanne December 31, 2009 at 8:09 am #

        Sweet Life is this AMAZING bakery in Eugene. Tons of beautiful and delicious cakes and pasteries, many of them egg, gluten, and dairy free (which means they’re mostly chocolate and sugar, never a bad thing). All of their stuff is great. You can google them and drool over the pictures. Might get you up our way faster.

        • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 12:01 pm #

          OOooo! Melissa told me about that place! So it is like candy… but better!! I’m packing my car up right now. See ya soon!!
          😀

          • Lemissa January 1, 2010 at 12:29 pm #

            take I-5 North into Eugene,OR and call me for directions from there!

      • Lemissa January 1, 2010 at 12:28 pm #

        Oh thank you lady. An open heart gets hurt, but I am not afraid of that hurt. I can take it. A closed heart does not love. That hurts so much more.
        You are the best.
        I am the best.
        WE ROCK!!!!!!!!

  22. Katie December 30, 2009 at 9:20 pm #

    Wow, I just read her blog post. It’s incredibley sad that an adult (WITH children) would act like a high school girl who got her boyfriend stolen from her and wanted the world to hate the girl who did it.

    I am glad to see you are not letting this affect you too much. People like that are not worth anyone’s time. Your views are very clear and I’ve never seen you “spew hate” as she put it towards anyone. We all have experiences with different religions and types of people and we have the right to voice our experiences, which is all I’ve ever seen you do in your writings.

    I enjoy reading your posts and am a huge fan of your artwork, so please keep up all the great work!

    ~ K

    • Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 10:47 pm #

      Thank you so much Katie! I always try to preface any strong opinion that I have about ANY group of people with a disclaimer explaining that I’m only talking about the actions of a few (even though they may represent that group as a whole). I understand this when I read it from others, and I really haven’t had problems with people understanding it from me. But I’ve always been of the school of thought that if what I’m saying offends someone, then maybe they should look at WHY it offends them. If it’s not directly attacking them, and they’re not guilty of the behavior I’m rallying against- then why be offended? If they are guilty of it, they by all means- take offense.
      It is sad when adults behave like children. We’re supposed to be role-models… or at least I try to be. But we can’t expect for everyone to live up to our expectations… and the ones who don’t, just weed them out and walk away.
      Thanks so so much for your wonderfully kind words!! 😀
      xoxo

  23. Kristen Ferrell December 30, 2009 at 11:06 pm #

    And Beautiful Miss Jackie-a-Go-Go… (i know you’re out there reading this… how? cuz I live in your pocket)
    I love you so fucking much that I almost piss my pants every time I think about it! I’m crying right now because I’m laughing so hard at your comment on her blog. FUUUCK, lady!! Why are you not here right now??!!!! WWWHHHYYY?!?!?!?!?!?

    And I’d also like to thank Charlie Sheen, Hugo Chavez, Dick Chaney, James Cameron, and Bill O’Reilly for participating in her blog.
    Again… in tears of laughter.
    Thank you thank you thank you for my super happy good feeling laughter-filled night!! All of you!!!

  24. juju galaxie December 31, 2009 at 12:03 am #

    I dont understand why people waste their time. If she doesn’t like it then dont read it and take you off her friend list…its that simple!! GEES!!
    I like how you have open and empathetic views of the world and your venting sometimes cracks me up!!
    Good luck in all you do and continue to be the creative and inspiring artist that you are.
    Thank you for your contributions to the art world. It inspires me to do my own work!!!

    xo
    juju galaxie

    • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 12:12 pm #

      Monster hugs to you, Juju!! And yes- I don’t understand putting so much time into the hate and bad feelings. It’s a terrible waste. ESPECIALLY when all that hate and bad feelings are dedicated to one specific person who really has no impact on the world at large or your life in any real way. I’d rather spend my time spreading good feelings and making people feel loved… like in this blog, which has turned into a crazy hippy love-in between me and all of you (it’s like Valentines day, without the Hallmark trademark stamp on it). I want everyone who leaves this little blog to walk away with good feelings- not bad.
      Best of luck to you too, lovely! And have a WONDERFUL new year!!!
      xooxoxxoxoxo

  25. Michelle December 31, 2009 at 8:19 am #

    Bat. Shit. Crazy. And I know some crazy-ass people. The bat shit crazy ones are those who defend their craziness when a hundred people are telling them that they are, indeed insane.

    But have no fear. Lex will self-destruct in approximately 5..4…3…2….

    • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 1:47 pm #

      ❤ Oh Michelle <3…..
      I think she's already there. From screaming about my tattoos and hack artwork (which I'll be the FIRST to raise my hand and claim "hack" because the people I show with make my art look like monkey scribble) while trying to relate it being a religiously oppressed Christian… and then melting down to screaming about me using my looks to "get ahead" (which really threw me for a loop because I'm most likely to post the most unflattering photos of myself) and getting really mad that I don't shave my legs and armpits (???!!!???!!!)… then the freak out on here that is total babble with her final point having something to do with her 9 year old listening to Nirvana. You can follow the mental decline, post by post. Weird Whateversville.
      Brad can't even read any of her madness anymore. He feels too sorry for her because she's so out of her mind, and it makes him ill to think that her and her family have to live with that kind of sickness.

      I wish I was in Kansas with you and the family right now. But it's nice that we have things like this for a reason to come together over the holidays- right? 😉
      I miss you!!

  26. candice December 31, 2009 at 2:34 pm #

    Do you remember Mad-libs? I felt like I was reading one when I read L’s last post up there. It mad NO sense, but was reeeeeaaalllllllly funny. I’m sitting here repeating it to my dogs and giggling like crazy. When all this started I felt that defensive feeling I get when someone messes with my friends (this is the only time I get defensive really…) but as the conversation has continued and the other side’s comments have gotten pettier and more odd I’ve realized that you need no defending here. This is pure comedy, and comedy can’t hurt people. Unless you count tears of laughter of course…

    • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 3:03 pm #

      YYYEEESSS!!!!! You’re fucking brilliant!! That is it exactly!!!.
      God, I fucking love Mad-libs.
      This has been beautiful, wonderful comedy, and ended on such an amazing note.
      Tears of laughter were probably not the desired outcome by some- but they should be more than welcomed by all.

  27. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth December 31, 2009 at 2:46 pm #

    OK, never mind. Apology redacted, too much to do IRL to deal with this idiocy. Trying to revive my “friendship” with someone who originally ended ours by just ceasing to speak to me and other juvenile methods was obviously a big mistake. She’s still just as obsessed with shouting down people with opinions other than her own and I have a life to live, one that doesn’t involve this. Well, other than proving the double standard by which Kristen (and so many of her online friends) live.

    Note that no one at all even bothered to defend Kristen’s rather indefensible words, they just stamped their feet like kids not getting their own way, basically yelling, “I know you are, but what am I?!?!” repeatedly.

    • daMamma December 31, 2009 at 4:01 pm #

      Okay then. While this has all been quite entertaining in a odd sort of way, as you said, you have a real life. Perhaps you should now go back to living your life and leave all of this behind.

      As for defending Kristen’s “rather indefensible words”, I for one did not see that they were indefensible or needed defending. Apparently no one else felt that way either.

      From one mother to another, hon, just quit while you are behind. You will be much happier if you do. Trust me, you pretty much lost this one with the first word.

      • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 7:41 pm #

        Amen.

        • Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth January 1, 2010 at 4:37 pm #

          ROFL–I just got called “overly emotional” by Kristen Ferrell?!? Whaaaaa? Um, yeah….I just wrote at my place that this is one of those Horse. Dead. Beaten. Repeat if you wish issues, but I think that after my co-blogger and friend MT is going to have to do the kind of post I was dreading, the full on comparison of this blog (or another, as had been planned, this just got started off early via Facebook.

          Kristen–if you had really had problem with me back then, or perceived that I had a problem in the “overly emotional” category, you should have just said something, we could have talked it out for heaven’s sake. You know, instead of standing next to me to talk to my husband while pretending I wasn’t there. Or mutual friends. At least I would have fucking known!

          And no, I didn’t go and track you down, be honest about that at least. You were at a wedding party with a close personal relative of mine and told him that “L” “hates my guts! I don’t know what I did, but she just hates me!”.

          So, at everyone’s urging, I wrote you a message on MySpace just stating that we didn’t have to become “friends” on that site or anything, just that I wanted you to know I wasn’t angry with you and certainly didn’t hate you. You messaged me back immediately due to the death of C.J. to tell me the news and when the memorial service was being held. No barrage of emails, no “online stalking”, absolutely nothing of the sort. The little free time I have left me with little choice to socialize, so I just didn’t pursue it.

          I also didn’t “go crazy” posting pics of you on my Facebook page, rather screen shots of the things you were saying about me. That way, everyone could see your self-centered paranoia. Because it is just the height of maturity to start a forum of sorts online and then ban the subject from defending herself. Really grown up there. Uh huh.

          So, in your quest to keep my “too much drama” is how I ended up being a bridesmaid at your 1st wedding? That seems odd….you don’t stage your WEDDING, of all things, to keep someone you just claimed to have seen as “overly emotional” and wanted “to keep at a distance from”, or do you? And most people rather consider being nuts by Kristen as just some more icing on the cake of life here.

          Whatever. I’ll post on you when my co-bloggers return (though it matters little, their debate expertise, as no one will even BEGIN to debate that original comment from FB as well as the added post there that Kristen created for people to further malign me and my family.

          But DaMomma, I have lost NOTHING and am not even remotely “behind”. The responses I’ve gotten have had us rolling along with friends over the silliness of it all, and I think I’ll give Kristen’s blog the new “Hate Blog of the Year” once we manage to get back together away from our non-blogging holidays. and that they can observe the very same accusations and hatred heaped on them just for being Muslim.

          So Kristen, really? You immediately saw that I was “overly emotional” when we met and that our “friendship” was all pretense? Is this just some shoddy revisionist history on your part, or do all the times I ended up defending you back in Lawrence count for nothing? All the favors, everything? All of it while thinking, “OH NO, THERE’S AN INSANE PERSON IN MY APARTMENT”?

          OK, I type too damned fast and end up leaving far too long comments in that way. The Loon watching the looniest it full bloom, I love it.

          BTW, check out this blog, Gates of Vienna http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com and Pamela Geller’s atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com if you want to know who the comparisons I have been making are all about. See if you can stomach their near-genocidal rage (I for one cannot), then take a good long look at what is on THIS blog.

          OK, until us three over at govvs (OR Loonwatch) I consider this matter on hold.

          Lex

          • Erica January 1, 2010 at 7:33 pm #

            why can’t you just let it go and move on. Now it seems like you just want people to look at your blog and are feeding off someone else popularity. Do whats right, finally, let all this go, never think about or talk about Kristen again and try to live a happy life.

          • Kristen Ferrell January 1, 2010 at 7:47 pm #

            Jesus fucking christ, Lex….
            Seriously? Are we still seriously doing this?
            FUUUUUCCCCCCKKK!!!!!!

            *SIGH*
            Ok…..
            1. Yes. You are ‘overly emotinal’. There’s nothing wrong with that. I stated in the very beginning of this post- and THAT’S FINE that you are!!! Who fucking cares?! But once I got married, and had Sully, and was in school, and working, and dealing with a stressful home life, and being flat ass broke, ALL AT THE AGE OF 22- I couldn’t deal with an ounce more of ’emotional’. The fact that you’re dwelling on this is bizarre and pointless. And ‘talk to you about it’? When all I had to do was post “My family is going to celebrate Isaac Newton’s birthday on xmas instead of Jesus’s because we’re more dedicated to science than god” and this shit storm occurred- do you really think that ANYONE feels like they can openly approach you about ANYTHING???

            2. No, my tattooed body will not age well. I will look horrifying and ridiculous when I’m old… it will be hilarious and I embrace it. But the only difference between me looking like shit when I’m old and anyone else looking like shit when they’re old is that I’ll be more colorful. But in the end- we will all look like shit. So who gives a fuck. This is an totally incoherent point for you to keep making.

            3. I’ve owned cats since I was 20. I have always fed them cat food that has meat in it. I’m not sure where you’re getting all your facts- but if you’re going to continue to make my insignificant opinions the subject of future blogs, please get your facts straight. (and this is a super odd one to be focusing on, and reeks of grasping at straws).

            4. The fact that I don’t shave my legs or armpits isn’t a political statement or me “fighting the man”. I’m just lazy and don’t feel like shaving half my body because I’m ‘supposed to’. And I think it’s super funny to wear a really pretty strapless dress and have hairy armpits. It creeps guys out- and I like creeping guys out. It’s just an inside joke I have with myself. I don’t rally for all women to not shave… because I just don’t care. Again, this is something really odd for you to focus on- or to take so personally to dedicate a blog to it.

            5. I never tried to “oppress or silence” you. I privately asked you to calm your aggression, because I thought that doing it in a public forum would be disrespectful to you. Just like I’ve never used your name until the heading of this response, or targeted you specifically. So please don’t act like I came after you- because I never did. Yes, I did temporarily block you because you started attacking, and I didn’t want to bother with all of this. But you’re no longer blocked from anything, and your voicing your opinions all over the place- so why are you still bent out of shape over that?

            6. Most importantly- WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO CARE SO MUCH WHAT I THINK!!!! I’M JUST ONE PERSON OUT OF 6 1/2 BILLION ON THIS PLANET!!!! WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT ME!!! NOBODY!!! I sincerely am just an art hack who happened to have some great opportunities happen at the right moment that landed me a couple splashes of undeserving attention. But, really, I am noone. I have never said I was anything else. I don’t expect people to follow a word I say, but if I do give advice- it’s only to help anyone that might be listening. I write for me, and most of the stuff on here is total babble and silly venting over complete nonsensical bullshit. NONE OF IT IS IMPORTANT! I’M NOT IMPORTANT! Why are you making me so important to you?

            The past is the past. It no longer exists except in our heads… so you should let it all go. You have special things in your life right now to put your energy towards. You can go through my years of babble and try to pick it apart and make me more of a villain- it’s seriously totally ok. If you have the time and energy for that, then be my guest. But there are REAL atrocities that go on in this world (like in the blogs you cited above)- so why are you focusing on a nobody loudmouthed hairy atheist art-hack? It doesn’t make any sense.
            Focus on your family. Focus on your own interests. Focus on things that really have something to do in your life that make you happy. But to focus on me, of all people, is not normal- because I have nothing to do with you in any way, shape, or form.

            In conclusion… this matter is not on hold in my book. It is over. Do what you feel you need to do, but for me- this has already gone WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY to far past the threshold of ‘normal’ and it now exists in some twilight zone sub-dimentional bizarro land that I don’t know how to wrap my feeble brain around.

            Good-bye, Lex. The best to you and your family, and I hope we never have to endure the discomfort of running into each other ever again… for everyone’s sake.

  28. nicole December 31, 2009 at 3:43 pm #

    hahahaha wow, all i can say is, kristen, you’re loved more than you can imagine. you’re an amazing woman!! i can’t believe all the shit life chucks at you, but you always manage to get through it looking absolutely adorable. &you make me just about piss my pants laughing! happy new year to you, mama! =)

    xoxo

    • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 3:53 pm #

      Life (and people) can chuck whatever they want. I’m pretty good at volleyball, and I’ll just swat it right back. You have to turn all the bullshit into a game- and then instead of it upsetting you, it becomes fun! And this became REALLY fun REALLY fast- thanks to the help and love of you and everyone who played.
      You’re 100% dreamy! Thanks bunches and bunches!!!
      😀
      xoxoox

  29. Andrea Jay December 31, 2009 at 8:48 pm #

    Wow…i read parts of her blog, just to see for myself that someone could actually be that offended by you. i have been reading your blog for over 4 years i think, and i LOVE THEM. i hardly ever comment on them, but i read every one and would be MORE THAN happy to bat for you in ANY situation. sadly, i live in canada and probably couldnt back u up if it did come down to it, but if i would, i would in a HEARTBEAT. you are one of the best people ever.

    • Kristen Ferrell December 31, 2009 at 10:19 pm #

      Awwwwwwwww… thank you, Andrea!! How about if I ever need someone to have my back in Canada (or at least in your province), I’ll call on you… and if you ever need someone to have your back in California (or any of the neighboring states), you call on me.
      Is it a deal?
      We gotta stick together, cuz there’s a whole MESS of bullshit and crazy out there to ward off.
      😀
      XOXOOXOXOXOXOX

      • Andrea Jay January 2, 2010 at 8:13 pm #

        It’s a deal! ❤

  30. Lex, Agent of Chaos Azagthoth January 1, 2010 at 9:25 pm #

    I’m reposting this here so that no one need feel tainted by our little Watch/Mockery Blog. And that’s what my blog is, after all, we post on haters on the web (usually anti-Muslim) who take themselves way too seriously and will JUST NOT SEE that what they write online is, indeed, bigoted. But yes, after this comment, your blog will be left alone. It has been Kristen’s rabid attacks on everything Christian for the last 4 years or so that brought us (Gavin counts in this too) to finally protest. Lightly. In an insignificant and innocuous enough setting of a Facebook comment response.

    So yes, we’re “still doing this”, but not not for the sake of each other, simply because the non-debate that sprang up has become a blog of it’s own distributed evenly between comments here and at my place.

    You never answered our query about the original post or early comments, your ‘friends’ left a slew of comments against me on my shared blog, in other words, once back from holidays, my cohorts may want to tear this and your OP from here to shreds.

    Me? I’m utterly bored by it all.

  31. daMamma January 1, 2010 at 11:06 pm #

    So Kristen, seems you have “friends” and she has cohorts. A very interesting choice in words indeed.

    I think I like friends better, don’t you?

    😉

    • Kristen Ferrell January 2, 2010 at 12:39 am #

      I do so very much like “friends” more than “cohorts”. “Cohorts” sounds sinister and gross.
      I tried to logically explain there was no debate because there was nothing debate worthy. Everyone tried reason and common sense… but many of our friends explained to me from the beginning of this nonsense that there’s just no reasoning with crazy, so not to even bother. I had hopes that something would get through.. but oh well!! 🙂
      Brushing it off, and walking away smiling.

      Thank you, lovely deMamma (and everyone else). This is probably not going to be the end of this… but we won’t be aware of it because none of us will be watching.
      xoxooxxoxoxoxoxooxoxoxxoxo

  32. Kristen Ferrell January 3, 2010 at 11:15 pm #

    As of today, Jan. 3rd, Lex’s “I Hate Kristen” blog has been taken down (so the link above to it won’t work). I don’t know if this was done by blogger because oodles of people reported it as abuse, or if it was taken down by her because it was giving me so much positive press. She could have kept it up for life and I would have smiled… but it’s gone. So I’m going to guess that (FINALLY) this is the end of it.

    I’m not posting this comment to start up more drama, debate, or bring on additional comments (because none of us, Lex included) need to dwell on this overblown and fully ridiculous situation for another second. But I do believe there is a definite moral to this story….
    To disagree is great, and it’s our differences that make us learn from each other and grow as people. But HOW we disagree makes all the difference in the world. If you want to be heard- don’t scream in people’s faces and sling insults and publicly attack . If you want to be taken seriously, calm rational is the best approach. And if you decide to start a war, be prepared for the possibility that you might lose. And the ONLY thing that makes me think that there was any “winning or losing” in this situation is that my aggressor walked away from this hurt and angry (as shown by her still posting daily insults about me on FB- which is totally fine), and I’m walking away from this happy, unharmed, and actually a more appreciative and loving person because of it. The one who loves the most, wins.

    Consider this my Jerry Springer-type episode summary to a Jerry Springer-type situation… trying to put some “meaningful final thoughts” into a chaotic and useless display of abhorrent human behavior. Even though her post was taken down, your hundreds of beautiful comments of support for me are at the front of my brain, and I thank you all for your love.

    Fingers crossed that this is the last of it.
    Thank you all, and goodnight.
    XOXOOXXOOXOXOXOXOXOXOXXOXOXOXOXOOXOXXO

    • The Sphinx January 4, 2010 at 8:13 am #

      “And the ONLY thing that makes me think that there was any “winning or losing” in this situation is that my aggressor walked away from this hurt and angry”

      How’d you feel after someone unleashes the equivalent of a torch and pitchfork mob onto your blog, after repeatedly and compulsively attacking your atheism? Pretty lousy I presume.

      A main pride I take in my faith is the principle of “treating others as you want to be treated”. Your lack of this principle is quite telling. Enjoy your 15 minutes of smugness while they last.

      • Kristen Ferrell January 4, 2010 at 9:21 am #

        “And if you decide to start a war, be prepared for the possibility that you might lose.”
        She didn’t need to start the smear campaign. She didn’t need to post such a vicious and personally attacking blog. She handled the whole situation in the most embarrassing and disgraceful way imaginable- and THAT is what people reacted to. Not her political or religious view, but her personal vendetta. SHE unleashed the mob onto her blog with her behavior. I treated her with respect and didn’t ever divulge her name or personal info about her, and only responded to her hate tactics after she had rampaged for days to anyone who would listen- AND the only way i responded was by posting a link to HER hate blog. I can’t wrap my brain around the “treat others as you want to be treated” in this situation, because I would never be as petty and insecure to react how she did EVER. It was creepy as hell. And forgive me for not giving a shit about her hurt feelings at this point.
        And if you read my blog that she quoted all over the place, my family IS constantly attacked because of our atheism. My 11 year old almost got beaten up at school by Christian kids over it. So yeah… I get it. Instead, I still teach my child tolerance… not to go on psycho-rampages.
        Get over yourself.

    • daMamma January 4, 2010 at 1:15 pm #

      Cool! Now that we are past petty play we can get down to the real important things.

      First: How was your holiday season? I hope yours was wonderful as mine was pretty nice.

      Second: Did you get to see that lovely Blue Moon on New Year’s Eve? I did manage to get some great photos of it. We had a great time celebrating at home, beginning with a traditional Surf ‘n Turf dinner and wine. Monkey (3ys) is totally picky by enjoyed the shrimp and apple juice instead.

      Third: Did your handsome young man finally get his room cleaned? and Did he enjoy his holiday from school?

      Forth: What new ideas do you have churning around your head for product line(s)? I really really do need to find some spare cash somewhere for the shirt I’ve been eyeing. Plus I think those severed fingers (do you still have those?) would look fab on my holiday tree. Totally creepy and wickedly cool.

  33. Karararararalyn January 4, 2010 at 10:13 am #

    hi dollface..

    haven’t read all the comments but check this out.

    #1 – i’ve been offline for a week, so i’m just getting to this.
    #2 – i had the same problem! I put a thing up on FB that said:

    “..totally inappropriate to globally issue a Merry Christmas to everyone you see in the next few days. Please insert Happy Holiday or something. Not everyone is cool with your jebus crap.”

    people got mad. i wound up blocking people, deleting people and just generally laughing at reverse postings that people did, like this:

    whooops…went looking for it and she took it down…blah blah blah it was about how not wishing people merry xmas was unamerican. does this person have a brain? i ask myself.

    anyways. i chime in with your whole FB thing, i’m sure there were others, too. XO

  34. Lex January 4, 2010 at 12:29 pm #

    For the sake of clarity, I reverted the posts to drafts. The mere idea that Blogger would even TAKE a complaint on an Op-Ed reeks of censorship. “….oodles of people reported it as abuse”. Excuse me? I removed it all to get those idiots off of our blog, I’d love to see them try and get Blogger to censor me! The mere idea! And you wonder why I claimed “intolerance” on their part? “Reporting blogs” is the equivalent of a good old fashioned book burning, and opinion is legally protected. I should know, as I’ve spent the last couple of years mocking neo-fascist sites and have seen them banned under “hate speech” laws in some countries while being left alone in others, especially the U.S.

    Sheesh, had your charming new cache of admirers not come across my blog due to this issue but out of chance or via links (um, yes, I do have them) they’d probably be a bit more freaked out over the bigots we quote who advocate mass murder, forced deportations and genocide against Muslims living in Western countries, or at least amused at the foibles of such bloggers.

    I removed the post, period, to make it less personal and to include others who write in this vein. I thought I was being nice, but after seeing that I’ve been “reported” to Blogger?!? Ugh….don’t make me sick all over again! Especially after all this kicking in of my teeth for getting sick all over the Prom Queen’s shoes. I’ll find an OSCAR award some time on EBay for Kristen, she played her part so very well.

  35. Polly January 4, 2010 at 12:54 pm #

    Holy shit, little lady- you’re fucking bananas. Kristen said she DIDN’T KNOW what happened to your blog, nor did she care. Not everyone spends all their time online, obsessing over this kind of nonsense, and knows all the ins-and-outs of the “blogging world” (I, for one, reported your shit as abuse- so if they’re not going to do anything about abusive blogs, then why have the option to report it there?).. You’re a goddamn freak show, and getting more pathetic by the second. She’s moved on! And it seems like you’re just a joke to her now (and to everyone else except the 3 folks online who seem to share your broken mindset)…. so why are you still stomping your feet?

    I think you might just win the award for the most unstable, petty, and pathetic person online worldwide. Congrats!!!!

    • The Sphinx January 4, 2010 at 1:19 pm #

      Talking about “obsessing”, “pathetic” and “moving on” in support of somebody who terrorized Lex for a couple of days on end on Facebook is rather rich. The only reason this lady has moved on was because she discovered that she can let loose a lynch mob of people against somebody she doesn’t like. While this may be a form of dealing with adversaries, it’s a long way from being the most intelligent one.

      I won’t be around much longer for this crap, but knowing Lex for a couple of years has proven again and again that she is neither unstable, nor petty, and most certainly NOT pathetic. But hey, since you’ve disemboweled and buried constructive debate long ago, I feel my time is better spent elsewhere.

      Good night.

      • Sara January 4, 2010 at 1:47 pm #

        You’ve known her a couple years online. K’s known her for over a decade in real life, and has apparently been through this with her before.
        And K never terrorized Lex via facebook, she actually BLOCKED her from facebook because she didn’t want to deal with this kind of drama and crazy… Lex is STILL posting about K daily. K walked away a long time ago. And Lex is still going and going and going.
        And it’s a fucking riot.

        Loony Lex released the hounds on herself, and now she’s stomping her feet and crying because she got hurt. That’s what happens, lady!
        JUST WALK AWAY!!!!
        (unless you want to continue to entertain us- then PLEASE, keep going!!! We’re all enjoying the show)

  36. Lex January 4, 2010 at 1:21 pm #

    Polly, I took it down so that it would be OVER. But thanks for getting those last digs in. It seems to be a cathartic exercise for you guys. If you’d like, you can send me your attempt at censorsh…I mean “report” against me using my blog to tell my side of the story (the definition of a blog, really, in the first place) I’ll even give you my mail, send to theultimateinsult@gmail.com if you have a problem, as I’ve said and you’ve said, I’ve moved on, Kristen has moved on. EMail me about the attempts to censor my blog if you really care.

    I just wanted, after that heinous suggestion of “reporting as abuse” BULLSHIT to clarify that I removed the posts myself so that we can just move along and past this. Not to be “still stomping” my feet. If my tone seems sardonic, well shit, maybe that’s because a bunch of people were major assholes to me online in the last couple of weeks?

    I was certainly an asshole, admit it freely, and ask only one thing, that this doesn’t hurt my brother. He’s a wonderful person, he stayed out of this whole business, doesn’t share my “overly emotional” personality and really does deserve the successes he has earned with his creativity. Let this die and don’t involve my brother, please. And sorry to Polly for still having an opinion. I’ll shut down my brain just for you, OK? LOL.

    • Sara January 4, 2010 at 1:49 pm #

      If you wanted it to be over so badly then WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. Jesus Christ January 4, 2010 at 1:37 pm #

    Dear Lex,
    The only reason people are still responding on here is to see you freak out. Even being the loving and compassionate deity that I am, I’m having a hard time keeping from laughing.
    Embrace peace with this situation, and leave it be. Your making yourself (and my followers) look silly.

    Sincerely,
    Your Savior

  38. Lex January 4, 2010 at 2:12 pm #

    Thank you dear Savior, I needed you and your divine wisdom to guide me through this debacle. I just keep picturing you from that bit on The Simpson’s sitting alone on the swings with “God” explaining how much His Son is still in a state of shock from his last visit to us lowly humans.

    I’m really far from freaking out. Sorry to disappoint and all, but I just came to post that I had taken the posts down myself. But seeing your response in the mail made me get over here immediately, oh Lord and Savior! Now lead me into that light and take me away from this mortal stage before the audience calls too much for another encore.

    Now, let it die, OK? And for this one, no Resurrection, please.

    • doug January 4, 2010 at 2:39 pm #

      we’re all just here watching your show now. all points of any previous debates are long gone. now it’s just a one woman tragedy performance… kindof like a geek from the turn-of-the-century carnival.
      you make one hell of a geek, lex.

      and of course, kristen (who is nothing but classy) abandoned this long ago.

  39. Lex January 4, 2010 at 3:16 pm #

    Have fun waiting then, shitdick. I’m gone from here.

  40. daMamma January 4, 2010 at 3:25 pm #

    “I’m gone from here.”

    What are the odds? Seriously? I’m just shaking my head at this point and not really believing it. Kristen, you are a better woman than I am. My patience is sorely tried and this isn’t even my blog, nor am I the object of the noise.

  41. Kristen Ferrell January 4, 2010 at 5:13 pm #

    Shhhhhhh little bunnies…. everyone settle down. I’m going to shut down the ability for ANYONE to comment on this anymore because it’s devolved from being a valentine to my friends into a grump-fest. I don’t like grump-fests. This is not to ‘censor’ anyone- it’s just to officially end it since deMamma is right, and the natural course of time doesn’t seem to be dissolving this quickly enough. And this is by far the stupidest thing I’ve ever been a part of, or thrown at me (and I’ve lived lifetimes of stupid).
    Let’s all walk away with this either happy in our own thoughts, or happy to see the end of it. But either way- let’s all be happy.
    The end.

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